Tuesday, July 28, 2015

EN EL 48 ANIVERSARIO DEL DESASTRE EN USS FORRESTAL (CVA-59)

Por Miriam Mata

guanabacoa@aol.com

07/29/2015

EN EL 48 ANIVERSARIO DEL DESASTRE EN USS FORRESTAL (CVA-59)


     Hoy 29 de Julio 2015 se cumplen 48 años de uno de los mayores desastres cuando Vietnam, en el porta-aviones USSForrestal,  un avion F-4 Phantom que accidentalmente se le fue un cohete Zuni  que volo por cubierta derramando gasolina y cayo al mar,  a la derecha del F-4Phantom  estaba otro avion A-4 Skyhawk pilotado por Lt. Cmdr. Fred White, el cual dicho cohete  le paso por  el tanque de gasolina lo cual  incendio el combustible.  John McCain que estaba en la cabina de su avion A-4 Shyhawk a punto de despegar le cuenta a su biografo otra historia que publica en su libro “Faith of My Fathers,”  que se puede leer en linea   de que el cohete le dio a su avion y se salieron dos de sus bombas cayendo en la gasolina  ardiendo mientras el se escapaba de su cabina y corrio a una parte segura de cubierta. Esta informacion  contraria a lo dicho por McCain se puede leer en varios articulos en internet.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081007_investigating_john_mccains_tragedy_at_sea

http://mantalkblog.com/home/trump-is-correct-john-mccain-is-not-a-hero/

Y para confirmar la nota no contaminada  como se publico en The Ada Evening News Ada,Oklahoma July 31, 1967 




     En las guerras se cometen errores, y es una desgracia las muertes en combates mas aun cuando conocemos a alguien de los que han muerto en ellas,  yo tenia un conocido que murio de solo 21 años Richard Gomez compartimos fiestas familiares en 1964. 

     Cambiar lo que sucedio, mantener cerrado los documentos despues de casi medio siglo, cuando se perdieron las vidas en ese accidente de  134 hombres, no creo sea justo para la memoria de los que dieron sus vidas por nosotros.

Agrego informacion sobre el accidente de McCain, su estadia como prisionero de guerra y su actuacion ya como    senador que no ha favorecido a los veteranos.

     En este escrito de Factcheck se explica como McCain cambia como sucedieron los hechos.



Aqui hacen otra historia de como fue el accidente, no he podido encontrar ni a ningun piloto experimentado que me explique eso que dicen de ‘wet start’ comienzo mojado, de ahi que no entiendo nada.

(Un buen amigo me envia esta informacion) A "wet start" is a start where the engine is being started with a quantity of fuel already pooled in the engine (perhaps the result of a previous failed start) or the pilot delays ignition beyond what is normal and allows fuel to pool in the engine before ignition. Wet starts can result in a fire plume or a loud bang, and may damage the engine. The most dramatic damage will be to the compresser turbine blades due to pressure and heat failure.



However, “He (McCain) did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a ‘wet start’ up of his jet. . .when a pilot wants to be a wise ass or show off, this type of engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start-up…this was no accident.”
The fierce electrical surge caused the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes that were packing 1,000 pound, high-explosive bombs that caused the huge explosion and nearly sank this 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier. “This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors.”  

AMERICA'S ABANDONED SONS  En este libro explican como fue el accidente de McCain en el cual se hirio los dos brazos y una pierna.
https://books.google.com/books?id=-RJPAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA716&dq=songbird+mccain&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChM
AMERICA'S ABANDONED SONS



     Otra explicacion de como fue el accidente y cuales fueron los errores que cometio.

The Day John McCain Got Shot Down


McCain failed to follow instructions in combat. He did not try to evade the missile. Moreover, the pilots who were flying near him, one of them with a handheld camera, said he was not hit by a SAM.  He had flown too low and was brought down by a barrage of antiaircraft fire. Since a SAM exploded in a bright orange fireball visible for miles around, it was unlikely that they had called it wrong.  And since official navy records listed John McCain as downed by AAA fire, they were puzzled by why he later insisted in his political campaigns that it was a SAM.
As other pilots saw it, John McCain, quite simply, had got himself shot down.
But McCain also made another error in the next four to six seconds after he was hit.  He failed to use the proper procedure he had been taught for ejecting. As a result, he injured himself critically, breaking both arms and his right leg.




John McCain being saved from drowning. The Vietnamese on the left, probably Mai Van On, holds his arm. McCain was confronted by an angry mob when he reached shore.


     Aqui explican segun testigos como no fue torturado cuando fue prisionero de guerra.

Top Cop Says McCain Was Never Tortured

"He never was tortured - they were there in the camp with him and then when he came in....he immediately started spilling his guts about everything because he didn't want to get tortured," said McLamb, contradicting the official story that McCain only offered his name, rank, serial number, and date of birth.


Ya en libertad y siendo senador, se opone a investigaciones y proyectos de ley relacionadas a los veteranos y a los perdidos durante la guerra.

Since John McCain Brought It Up – Why Did He Obstruct Pro-POW Legislation, Why Do So Many Despise Him?


Veterans, House Members and Senators are featured in this discussion of the record and anti-veteran behavior of Senator John McCain, particularly after his release from his North Vietnamese captors.
They remark how odd it is that John McCain, once held as a POW himself, would be so bitterly opposed to efforts on behalf of those who might have been left behind by our nation and still be being held in captivity. Those acts include blocking the release of classified intelligence regarding the issue of POW/MIA’s. Former Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) describes information being deliberately withheld from a Select Committee on POW/MIA affairs by the U.S. federal government.
Veterans raise the question of whether or not McCain was a collaborator with the enemy, as is strongly rumored, and whether it is out of concerns for damaging information being revealed that McCain is so protective of the still classified information.

Este video explican sobre  el intento en el Congreso de  los perdidos en la guerra que  le dicen en Ingles MISSING IN ACTION (MIA) y la actuacion de McCain.





En el mes de Junio 2015 antes del asesinato de los cuatro marines y un marinero  en Chattanooga,
McCain se opuso que los miembros de las Fuerzas Armadas portaran armas en las bases, lo cual ha sido publicado en varios medios, con un silencio total en los medios nacionales.





Newly uncovered reports of a bad decision Sen. John McCain made as recently as last month with regard to arming active duty U.S. servicemen while they’re stationed stateside are about to cause a public relations disaster for the Republican senator from Arizona.


In June, Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev. submitted an amendment in a Department of Defense Authorization bill that would have allowed our soldiers to be armed — a move which could have mitigated the loss of life in the Chattanooga shooting that left four Marines dead and one Navy sailor fatally wounded.

    Listado de los muertos ese fatidico dia del 29 de Julio 1967, honrando su memoria en
este 48 aniversario.


The listing below includes all of the men who died as a result of the 29 July fire. Names are linked to their personal memorial pages on The Virtual Wall. Several are marked with asterisks (*) to indicate men who died after 29 July of injuries received.


PO2 Marvin J Adkins, VF-11 SN Everett A Allen, CVA-59
PO3 Gary J Ardeneaux, VF-11 PO1 Toney A Barnett, VF-74
LT Dennis M Barton, VA-46 PO2 Robert L Bennett, VF-11
PO2 Mark R Bishop, VF-11 SN James L Blaskis, CVA-59
AA William V Brindle, VF-74 PO3 Bobby J Brown, VF-11
PO1 Jerry D Byars, VF-11 PO3 Francis Campeau, VF-11
PO3 Jack M Carlan, VF-74 AN Daniel G Cavazos, VF-74
SN Ray A Chatelain, CVA-59 * AN Richard D Clendenen, VF-11
SN William D Collins, VF-11 AN Robert B Cotten, VF-11
PO2 James L Crenshaw, VF-74 PO2 Mario C Crugnola, VF-74
AN Robert J Davies, VF-74 PO2 Thomas J Dawson, VA-65
PO3 Jerold V Despard, VF-11 PO3 Edward R Dorsey, HS-2
PO3 Joseph G Dugas, VF-11 PO3 Paul A Dupere, VF-74
SN John S Duplaga, VF-11 SN Kenneth Dyke, CVA-59
PO1 Walter T Eads, VF-74 PO2 James A Earick, VA-106
PO2 John T Edwards, VF-11 CPO Gerald W Farrier, CVA-59
FN Kenneth L Fasth, CVA-59 PO1 John J Fiedler, VF-74
AN Russell L Fike, VF-74 PO1 Harold Fontenot, VA-106
AN Johnnie L Frazier, HS-2 AN Gerald G Fredrickson, CVA-59
PO1 Herbert A Frye, VF-74 AN Ramon Garza, VF-74
LT Robert E Geller, VA-65 PO3 Richard H Gibson, CVA-59
AN Lawrence J Gilbert, VF-74 PO3 William T Gilroy, VF-11
PO3 Larry E Grace, VF-74 PO3 Russell A Grazier, VF-74
PO3 Charles C Gregory, VF-74 SN William C Hartgen, CVA-59
AN Robert L Hasz, CVA-59 AN Richard A Hatcher, VA-46
AN William K Hinckley, VF-11 PO2 Stephen L Hock, CVA-59
PO3 Larry D Holley, VF-11 PO2 Calvin D Howison, VF-11
AA Philip L Hudson, CVA-59 * AO3 Julius B Hughes, VF-11
WO Donald N Hugo, CVA-59 AN Ralph W Jacobs, VF-74
PO3 Donald W Jedlicka, VF-11 AN William B Justin, CVA-59
AN Thomas M Kane, VF-74 AN Charles D Kieser, VF-74
AN Joseph Kosik, VF-11 PO3 Edward L La Barr, VF-11
SN Wade A Lannom, VF-11 AN William Lee, CVA-59
PO2 Robert C Leonberg, CVA-59 AN John T Lilla, VF-11
PO3 Arnold E Lohse, VF-11 AN Charles E Long, VF-11
PO2 William E Lowe, VF-11 PO3 Kenneth W Lozier, VF-11
PO3 James S Mac Vickar, VF-74 AN Ralph E Manning, CVA-59
PO2 Earle E Mc Auliffe, VF-74 AN Brian D Mc Conahay, VF-74
PO1 George C Mc Donald, VF-74 PO2 Frank C Mc Nelis, VF-11
PO3 William V Mc Quade, VF-11 AN Alan R Metz, VA-106
AN George D Miller, VF-74 AN Edward A Mindyas, VF-74
PO3 Hubert H Morgan, VF-11 PO3 Leroy Moser, VF-11
AN James E Neumeyer, VF-74 PO3 Gary E Newby, VF-11
AA James E Newkirk, VF-11 FN Ronald R Ogrinc, CVA-59
AN Thomas D Ott, VA-46 AN Wayne H Ott, VF-74
CPO Richard L Owens, VA-46 PO3 Richard T Pinta, VF-11
PO2 Raymond N Plesh, VA-106 AN John C Pody, VA-46
PO2 Ernest E Polston, VF-11 AN Douglas A Postt, VF-74
PO3 Robert M Priviech, VF-11 PO3 John M Pruner, VF-11
PO3 Robert A Rhuda, VF-74 AN Charles R Rich, VA-106
PO3 Jerry P Rodgers, VF-11 PO2 Dale R Ross, VF-11
AN James M Runnels, VF-11 AN Harvey D Scofield, VF-11
PO2 Joseph C Shartzer, VA-65 PO3 William J Shields, VF-11
PO3 Richard M Sietz, CVA-59 AN David W Smith, VF-11
SN Richard T Smith, VF-74 PO2 John F Snow, VF-74
PO1 John C Spiess, VF-74 SN Nelson E Spitler, CVA-59
PO3 Johnny W Spivey, VF-74 LCDR Gerry L Stark, VA-46
AN Walter E Steele, CVA-59 PO2 Wendell W Stewart, VA-106 *
AA Robert A Stickler, VF-74 AN Kenneth D Strain, CVA-59
PO2 Robert H Swain, CVA-59 AN Delton E Terry, VF-11
PO3 Norman A Thomas, CVA-59 PO1 William F Thompson, VF-74
PO3 Richard J Vallone, VF-11 AN Robert J Velasquez, CVA-59
AN Juan A Velez, VA-106 AN George E Wall, VA-106
AN Harold D Watkins, VA-46 AA Gregory L Webb, VF-74
PO3 Gerald A Wehde, VA-65 PO3 Judson A Wells, VF-11
PO3 Richard L Wescott, VF-11 AA Edward J Wessels, VF-74
LCDR Fred D White, VA-46 AN Kerry D Wisdom, VF-74
AN Robert L Zwerlein, VA-46 *



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